Donnerstag, 2. August 2018

Im new to BDSM - how do I start ....

or recommended first steps into the BDSM universe

when browsing the BDSM related forums, you soon will find questions like "I want to start, where to I learn X or what do I need to practice or what Y do tops/doms/whatever like best". These questions usually express a hope - "I just have to learn following 3 things and change following 2 and i'm there". 

Truth is, these approaches are doomed. There is no catalog of things you just have to learn by heart. 

And there is no objective certificate you can take an exam for. 

You will have to learn - learn hard - and be truthful to yourself - that might even be harder. But its rewarding :) I promise. 
That said - lets see what you CAN do ...my suggestion are :

The fundamental rules

1) First rule of submissives : There is no "THE submissive
2) Second rule of submissives: There is no "THE submissive"
meaning -> There is no „All submissives must…”. Only those things ok for you are right for you. (Hint: There is no "all doms want..." either ...with the possible exception of "honesty" and "loyalty "and "powerrrr" ;-) )
3) As bottom part (sub, slave, toy, babygurl, whateveryoucallyourself) you are still a human too – and the bottom might not at times, but the human deserves respect – always. If a top ignores this, (s)he looses any right to demand your reverence - turn around and find others who do.

So how to go at it ?

a)      Learn above rules by heart
b)      ignore all “As a slave you must”-wannabees and “I know it all, so shut up and obey, you want to be a slave after all”-assholes.
c)      read, read, listen, read, ask yourself, read, listen,
d)      learn about yourself and about your fetishes and fantasies
e)      ask, listen, read, listen, return to b (for a while)
f)       find likeminded people, (still) don't start searching for a (play/bdsm)partner
g)      ask, listen, read, listen, return to c for a while
h)      choose a trustworthy opposite and start little experiments
i)       learn about yourself and about your fetishes and fantasies
j)       expand your horizon, then back to b (for a while)
k)      expand further and ...


And always remember:

l)       Flirting with someone does not mean marrying first, then kiss them and going all the way, either. So don't start by accepting someones collar - it is kind of similar.
m)    If your human gut feeling tells you its not good for you – you may go, regardless of what you promised or the bottom signed. Your own health/sanity/family comes first. 
n)      Power always means responsibility, too. If top forgets this, (s)he looses his/her entitlement to your submission  – you may go, regardless of what you promised or the bottom signed.
o)     If you need help – you are not alone out there.

OK - fine - but how do I start now ... 

as I said - start reading - here for instance: https://robs-ds.blogspot.com/2018/04/request-for-advice-how-to-start-despite.html

and have fun :)

Samstag, 7. April 2018

New subs guide to Dominants

Preliminary : 
I found this  great article some time ago, I love it :)
Although I do not quite go with the "Do the Math" Numbers, because it neglects the fact that "true subs" are rare between the wannabees as well AND "true inexperienced newbie sub" are even rarer.


But the bottom line is still the same "Many wannabees, so be choosy and take your time". 

Here we go :
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This article is written by an anonymous author so if you are the author of this article or you know who the author is, please let us know so that we are able to offer appropriate credit.

The term ‘Acid Test’ is an old prospecting term. A powerful acid can dissolve most base metals in a matter of minutes. Gold however, will stand up to most acids. The ‘Acid Test’ was an easy way for people to make sure they had a real nugget of gold and not a lump of the ‘fool’s’ variety. In the same way, these tests are meant to be quick ways to identify fake Dominants. Passing all these tests is no guarantee either. There is no replacement for getting to know your prospective partner as well as possible BEFORE YOU EVEN MEET IN PERSON if that is what you choose to do. Most of these tests are designed for a submissive female trying to sort through men claiming to be Doms online. They are largely based on the many questions I get asked by my female friends still searching for a Dominant partner. Vanilla males are usually after ‘easy sex’ and this motive makes them easier to identify than a lot of the fake Doms out there.

Step One: Do the Math
Various estimates and surveys have placed the ratio of true (i.e., natural) male sexual Dominants to female sexual submissives at about one to ten. However, a quick count in any given D/s oriented chat room would lead you to believe that male Doms outnumber the subs at about two to one. Now if there is actually only one male Dom for every ten female subs, that means that 19 out of the 20 “Doms” you see online HAVE TO BE FAKES. Keep this in mind. There is a 95% chance that any man you talk to online claiming to be a Dom is no such thing. This leads us to our first rule, a rule that all statisticians and scientists already know by heart: “When in doubt, throw it out!” Your search for a suitable Dominant partner (especially if you are seeking a serious long term relationship as well) could easily take years. That’s hardly surprising, most people spend years looking for that special lover, be they ‘vanilla’ or otherwise. Don’t be disheartened by all these drastic ratios. BUT DON’T WASTE YOUR TIME either. If any of the prospects you are chatting with online makes you feel uncomfortable for any reason, drop him. Don’t give him ‘three strikes’ or ‘extra chances to win.’ Block out his screen-name and move on. There was only a one in twenty chance he was legitimate anyway. Trust your instincts!

Step Two: Know Your Enemy
We call them Snerts. We call them HNG’s (Horny Net Geeks). We call them Wannabes. We call them Control Freaks. Sometimes, tragically, we even find some that can only be called rapists and predators. They are all your ENEMY. Don’t bother thinking they are anything less. Even a more or less well meaning Snert can land you in a hospital. Sexual Dominance and submission is not for dilettantes or amateurs: Not, now and never! Even if he turns out to be a more or less nice guy, if he’s not a Dom, he’s not going to give you what you really need. He will likely give you many things you don’t (like medical bills and other assorted headaches).

- Snerts
Snerts are basically looking for easy sex. They are counting on the (highly inaccurate) assumption that sexual submissives are simply ‘easy lays.’ Nothing could be farther from the truth, but that doesn’t deter them at all. They are typically middle aged to somewhat older men. They are often married. They are usually trying to bolster their flagging vanilla sex lives with some casual screwing around. They target submissives because they think that they won’t make demands on there sexual prowess (another bad assumption). They can be easily spotted because they almost always demand or at least emphasize sexual intercourse being a part of their ‘scenes.’

- The HNG (Horny Net Geek)
HNG’s are usually the most harmless (and yet often the most annoying) of the enemy types. Most are teenagers and young men looking for some quick cyber-sex or even phone-sex. They are usually pretty sophisticated about there D/s jargon and the ‘scenes’ they describe to you can be pretty elaborate. Geeks do their homework. They scour the porno sites for ideas, and hang out in D/s chats for hours on end learning the ‘lingo.’ They are most easily spotted because they want to move on to cyber-sex and phone sex very quickly. They like to offer online collars, and spend hours on end in chat rooms ‘playing’ with their ‘subbies.’ Don’t waste your time with them.

- Control Freaks
The second most dangerous type of enemy is the Control Freak. Control freaks are what most psychologists and therapists call ‘controlling personalities.’ They are the type of person that wants to be in control of everything around them. They want all their family and friends to behave exactly as they say. They are extremely manipulative people. These men can be dangerous because many really have convinced themselves that they are Dominants to justify their dysfunctional lives. Many inexperienced submissives may find themselves ‘naturally’ attracted to these men because outwardly they seem so ‘in command’ of things all the time. The truly ironic (and sad) thing is, a controlling personality is actually the closest thing to the OPPOSITE of a sexual Dominant. Control Freaks can be spotted because they often talk about ‘taking care of you’ and also ‘knowing what’s best for you’. They almost always try to play on your emotions; especially guilt. They also usually criticize and even resent the advice you get from other people. They often talk about 24/7 D/s relationships without going into any details about what kind of actual scenes they play. They are fond of telling you that they prefer the ‘mental aspect’ of Domination and submission. They tend to be both demanding and argumentative. Nothing you do will ever be ‘quite right.’ While all this may seem very repulsive and easy to avoid, be on your guard, the average control freak often seems very charming initially. Once they have their ‘hooks’ into you it’s very hard to get untangled.

- Rapists and Predators
The last and most dangerous type of enemy is the rapist or predator. These are the men most likely to damage or even end your life. The truly frightening thing about these evil men it that there is NO easy way to spot them.

Rapists can be anything from bums to bank mangers, and anyone from family members to total strangers. One in four women has suffered an attack from this vile creature, and one in seven men as well! There motive is violence. The best defense is never make yourself too vulnerable. To defend yourself from predators, learn all the in’s and out’s of setting up a good Safety Net. Follow these procedures religiously. Most important of all TAKE YOUR TIME getting to know your prospective play partners. This is good advice in any case. If you know your partner well, you’re more likely to have a good time with him (because you will feel more comfortable during that first Scene).

Predators are more likely to move on in search of easy prey, they do tend to be impulsive. If a ‘Dom’ you have been talking too suddenly seems to loose interest in you after a period of time, you may have just saved your own life. Don’t go chasing after anybody. A true Dom doesn’t need to play ‘hard to get.’

Step 3: Know your goal!
Take the time to figure out what you want. It’s often hard for newbie subs to do this because sometimes they lack knowledge of what choices are available to them. ARM YOURSELF WITH KNOWLEDGE!!! There are many fine publications, books, and internet websites that cater to sexual submissives, so start reading! Learn about the different types of play and how they should be conducted. Learn everything you can about how to set up a Safety Net. Learn all the do’s and don’ts of meeting others and playing safely. Decide what your limits are and set them down on paper. This may seem like a lot of homework to do in the name of fun, but also keep in mind that that it’s your ASS that’s (literally) on the line here. Know what a real Dom acts like.

Remember, you are probably a sexual submissive because you ARE in control the rest of the time. You are strong! Likely even ambitious as well. You have a career, or goals, or a lifestyle that demands this high level of energy and control. Giving away your control can be a beautiful respite from everyday life. Your power and energy is something you only want to give to someone you trust, and in intimate situations at that. It’s a very personal thing to you! Well guess what, sexual Dominants are usually the compliment of this.

Doms are strong people too, we do tend to be intelligent. Doms are often highly trained professionals or skilled craftsmen. However, we tend to avoid lifestyles and careers that demand they be in control all the time. Doms tend to be easygoing. I have never in my life met, or even heard of, an uptight sexual Dominant. We like being in control in INTIMATE situations.

It’s a respite from the way we live OUR everyday lives. We are not really the opposite of you, but we are the ‘puzzle piece’ that fits next to you snugly. In another words, don’t look for a Dom that’s exactly like you. You won’t find him. Don’t look for a Dom that wants to run your whole life; he doesn’t exist. ABOVE ALL, if you’re prospective Dom seems like a generally ‘nice guy’ you’re likely on the right track! Take the time to get to know him. Don’t let the five control freaks on the other side of the chat room demand your attention. A natural Dom isn’t likely to make demands until its time to play.

Step 4: Memorize the Acid Tests!
·      When in doubt, throw it out! Don’t waste your time with people that make you feel uncomfortable. Even if the guy was a real Dom, if his personality makes you feel uncomfortable ,he’s not going to be fun to play with.  
·     “You’d better call me Sir!” is the mating call of a HNG or control freak. Real Doms don’t have to ask for titles, we EARN them. Most real Doms will say things like “please, call me Mike…”
·     “I want you to take my collar before you play with me.” This is another common demand of fakes, most often made by control freaks. They have to isolate you from other people and their advice, and sometimes a little ole “cyber-collar” is just the thing!  
·     If you get an Instant Message that says something like “On your knees you [slave, slut, bitch,whore, etc.]” This is the mating call of the HNG. Use some common sense here. Why waste your time with somebody that’s not even polite? There’s a time and a place for these endearing terms.
·      “I don’t have to answer that question!” or “It’s not proper etiquette for you to ask a Master that.” are examples of some the dangerous LIES that control freaks and snerts use. This is the Acid test I personally think is the most important! A Dom had better be ready to at least TRY and answer every question you have, and HONESTLY at that! Its literally your ass that’s on the line! Never forget this!
·      “Its my way or the highway!” or words to that effect, are the mating cry of the common control freak. Doms can have Limits too, but its your Limits that count FIRST. Don’t let any would-be ‘Dom’ tell you differently. Don’t let any of the wannabe subs tell you differently either. Where Male Dom/fem sub play is concerned, it’s ALWAYS LADY’S CHOICE! 
·      Ask your prospect if he’s ever made any mistakes during a scene. If he say’s ‘no,’ run for your life! If he says, ‘very rarely,’ at least be suspicious. Everyone makes mistakes, even if they are experienced players. Sometimes submissives have Limits they don’t even know about, and even the most careful and skilled Dom in the world will trip over these occasionally. Remember, according to our good friends of the Christian faith, the last perfect guy to walk this planet got nailed to a tree for his trouble. So expect competence, but not miracles
·      “I’m a [bank president, captain of industry, TV producer, self-made millionaire. yadda yadda yadda.]” Wouldn’t it be nice to meet a Dom that was rich? Sure it would! But use some common sense too. How many captains of industry have hours to spend in an On-Line chat room? Also, think about this personality profile; if this super successful, always-in-control person is really into D/s, he’s likely a submissive! I have met a lot of female submissives that fit this ambitious profile.
·     “I’m 33 years old, and I’ve been a Master for 15 years.” Gimme a break! What are the odds? When you ask about a Doms level of experience (and its a good idea to do so) remember to do the math as well. 18 year old boys don’t care about the intricacies of D/s; they want to get laid. Trust me on this one Ladies, I was an 18 year old boy once! I personally believe that people do become what they are (be it gay, straight, Dom or sub) very early in life, but it takes maturity and training to be a Master. What are the odds a person became a Master when they were still using Clearasil? 
·      Ask for references! Especially if he claims to be ‘very experienced.’ Talk to the references. I notice that a lot of newbies seem to have trouble with this concept. Which is understandable since in the vanilla world its considered rude to talk to a guy’s ex-girlfriend. But in the D/s Scene its the opposite, experienced players will accept and accommodate this kind of request gladly. 
·      “I have three real life collared slaves right now, but you can’t talk to them.” Okay, when you consider the ratio and all, this sounds possible. What makes this an acid test failed (and failed miserably at that) is the last part. I have met couples (and even triples) that really were looking for an extra person to add to the mix. This is not uncommon at all in the Scene. But these couples were looking TOGETHER. If a ‘Dom’ has anyone already collared to them, you probably ought to talk to her FIRST! 
·      “I don’t need safe words.” Well of course he doesn’t! If he said this he’s likely a snert and therefore he’s never really been in a scene! Of course he might be a predator too, and then he wouldn’t need safewords either. Need I say more?
·     “My slaves trust me to set their Limits for them.” If you hear a “Dom” say this it’s most likely because these slaves only exist in his mind. Or worse still, his ‘slave’ is simply the victim of spouse abuse. Even TPE (Total Power Exchange) and other sorts of 24/7 (i.e., full time) D/s relationships should involve some careful negotiation.
·     Insert your own Acid Test here. You will learn much from your mistakes and missteps. If you form an online contact with a “Dom” that falls through, analyze WHY it fell through. Don’t make the same mistakes twice if you can help it.
Finding some female submissives to be buddies with you on your quest is a very good idea. Especially if they are experienced players; they can give you unique perspectives, emotional support, and even references to legitimate Doms to play with. They can also, most importantly, provide a Safety Net for you during those first meetings with the men you meet. The benefits of teaming up with other women in your search should be obvious! However, be just as cautious about what you hear from other women online as well. If you are so inclined to search for a Domme for instance, the Acid tests should apply just as well.

Be very cautious about the women you meet online that claim to be submissives as well. There is another class of “female enemy” that is even more tragic and dangerous:

The Victim
The Victim is just that; a victim of physical and or mental abuse that uses D/s as an excuse to continue denying the reality of her tragic situation. These people are disturbingly common as well. They are dangerous to you! These women are not just full of very dangerous advice, but they are usually very vehement about telling you that their lifestyle is the only “real D/s.” They can fill your head full of doubts faster than one of the male enemy types. Spare little sympathy, tell them to get help, and stay the heck away from them (in exactly that order). It may seem mercenary, but it is in fact the right thing to do. This is my training as a CASA (Citizens Against Spouse Abuse) volunteer talking. An abuse victim can only save herself, and then only when she is ready to do so. If you let her vent her frustrations and fears on you, she will then go back to her familiar little hell. Leaving you emotionally drained and likely scared too. Your quest for safe play partners is going to be tough enough as it is. Avoid Victims completely if you can, and if you can’t, urge them to get help. It’s not your job to save the world, keeping yourself safe and happy is enough work.

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Freitag, 6. April 2018

Das Geschenk im Keller ....

Vorgeschichte ....

Carlotta hatte ihn auf sie aufmerksam gemacht und er hatte sie angesprochen. Sie war angetan von seiner zuversichtlichen und direkten Art und bevor sie sich versahen, hatte er sie auf der Kellertreppe verführt und von hinten genommen.
Sie liebte das, aber ihr Rock und ihre Bluse nicht ganz so. "Ich weiss, wo wir das Problem lösen können" hatte er gesagt und sie in einen Kellerraum geführt.

Kaum war sie in dem Raum, hielt er die Hand nach dem Rock auf - gutgläubig gab sie ihm den noch freiwillig. Doch bevor sie verstand, was geschah - rissen die Knöpfe von ihrer Bluse ab und er hatte sie in der Hand - beide.

Ihr "Eye, spinnst Du !!" kommentierte er mit einer Ohrfeige. "Halt die Klappe - ich habe Dir schon oben gesagt, ich gebe mich nicht mit Halbherzigkeiten zufrieden, Du gehörst mir jetzt - ganz." knallte er ihr entgegen, drehte sich um und ging.Die Tür fiel ins Schloss - sie hörte einen Schlüssel in der Tür und dann ging das Licht aus. Stärker als der Türknall hallte der Knall der Ohrfeige nach und machte sie schwindelig.

Nach kurzem Schock fängt sie an gegen die Tür zu hämmern und zu schreien, aber nichts passiert.

Minuten später geht das Licht wieder an. Erschrocken tritt sie zurück und ist sich auf einmal bewusst, das sie nur in Strümpfen und Schuhen und vor Kälte harten Nippeln in dem kahlen Raum stand. Eine fremde Frau öffnet die Tür - Wortlos wirft sie ihr die Ketten vor die Füsse und deutet auf ihre Gelenke und die Öse in der Ecke. "Hey, ich ..:" Die Frau hebt abwehrend die Hand. "Halt die Klappe - das hast Du dir selbst zuzuschreiben. Wenn Du auch nur einen Funken Verstand hast, tu einfach, was dein Herr will. Der Verschluss gehört nach hinten." *Rummms* ... die Tür ist wieder zu - das Licht geht aus.

Erste Besichtigung

... *Schritte hallen durch die Tür, das kalte Neonlicht geht an und ein Schlüsselbund schlägt gegen die Tür - Stimmen - Füsse - Lachen von Frauen und Männern ... die Tür geht auf und ER kommt rein und sieht sie so in der Ecke
" ... also habe ich sie erst einmal hierher gebracht, hier sind wir ungestört. Bin aber noch nicht dazu gekommen, mir das Bückstück genauer anzuschauen. He DU!"
>>Sie
Ich erschrecke , zucke zurück aber die Kette die an der Wand ist hindert mich.
Meine Hand und Fussfesseln schmerzen. Ich bin nackt und mir ist kalt .
Die Stimmen , es sind viele Frauen wie Männer, ich höre diesen Typen, meinen "Herrn". Was meint er mit ungestört , was wird mit mir geschehen...........

>>Er
Ich bleibe in der Tür stehen und betrachte dich in Ruhe. "Steh gefälligst auf, wenn ich reinkomme. Ich habe keine Lust, dich in irgendwelchen Ecken zu suchen, wenn ich was sehen will." Zögernd stehst Du auf, die Ketten am Rohr hochziehend, damit du aufrecht stehen kannst. Die Kette zwischen Armen und Beinen zieht dich rückwärts ans Rohr und die Handgelenke hinter den Rücken - automatisch zwingt sie dich in ein Hohlkreuz drückt und es Dir die Brust raus.

"Na wenigstens versteckst Du jetzt nichts mehr" muss ich grinsen und trete auf dich zu, den obersten Hemdknopf gelöst, die Fliege aufgezogen um den Hals - eine Horde neugieriger Männer in Smoking und Fliege und Frauen in leichten Abendkleidern in der Tür hinter meiner Schulter.

"Carlotta, die Schlüssel" sage ich ohne dich aus den Augen zu lassen und schnippe mit den Fingern. Eine schlanke Rothaarige in einem grünen Cocktailkleid löst sich aus der Menge. "Na, gefällt dir mein Geschenk? Ich sage doch, die weiss nicht wohin" grinst sie und tritt neben mich, ein kleines Schlüsselbund verspielt um den Finger haltend. Ich greife ihr in die Haare und ziehe sie herum zu mir und nehme mir einen tiefen Kuss. Mit der anderen Hand ziehe ich ihr das Schlüsselbund von den Fingern. "Nun, einfangen musste ich sie mir ja selber, du Luder. Und Tonio schulde ich jetzt einen Gefallen, damit ich seinen alten Keller hier so kurzfristig nutzen durfte. Das wirst Du abarbeiten müssen, kleine Schlampe."

Ich lasse sie gehen und sie zieht sich verspielt tänzelnd zur Tür zurück - "Wie du willst" grinst sie zurück und lehnt sich lasziv an den Türrahmen. Meine Augen interessiert das allerdings nicht, während ich dich weiter mustere und dein Gesicht hochhebe.

"Tja, das ist wohl mehr, als Du dir versprochen hast mit dem Quickie" ich hebe deine Gesicht an. "Ich habe Dir vorher gesagt, das ich mich nicht mit Kleinigkeiten abspeisen lasse, sondern alles haben will. Verstehst Du langsam, was ich damit meinte, als ich sagte - Du gehörst jetzt mir, ich bin dein neuer Herr" ?
Meine Augen beobachten dich neugierig ....

>>Sie
Ich traue meinen Ohren nicht Ich bin verraten und versklavt worden.
Was werden die Leute mit mir machen .
Mein neuer Herr zwingt mich auf und verlangt, ihn an zuschauen .............
Ein Schlag auf die Wange holt mich zurück in die Gegenwart
"Ich habe dich etwas gefragt, Miststück".
Ich schaue Dich an und sage "J .. .ja das habe ich verstanden"

>>Er
Ich greife deinen linken Nippel und kneife zu. "Das heisst, ja, ich habe das Verstanden, Herr" Genuesslich beobachte ich dich, während meine Finger deinen Nippel fest packen.

>>Sie
Es schmerzt sehr und ich sage unter tränen " JA HERR ICH HABE VERSTANDEN " von hinten drängen sich noch mehr Leute in Abendkleidung in den Keller.

>>ER
*lässt etwas lockerer und zwirbelt nur noch ein wenig* Na siehst Du, es geht doch *lächelt dich an* Ich werde noch viel Freude mit Dir haben, glaube ich. Und wenn Du Dir Mühe gibst, wird es dir sogar gefallen glaube ich. *die zweite Hand fängt an, deine zweite Brust zu streicheln und den Nippel immer wieder zu umspielen*
(Unvollendet - wie geht es weiter ?)

Request for Advice - How to start despite my husband

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Missbrauch VS. BDSM

Missbrauch vs. BDSM

Geschrieben wird viel dazu. Die griffigste Unterscheidung für mich stammt von einer Unterhaltung mit einer Sub:
Wenn er mich schlägt und dann seinen Freunden stolz vorschwärmt, wie toll ich bin, das ich das mitmache - dann gehöre ich ihm. Wenn er mich schlägt und dann seinen Freunden erzählt, wie toll ER ist und schwach ich bin, dann bin ich weg.

Montag, 2. April 2018

Fuzz about Fifty Shades of Grey vs BDSM

(german orignal at : http://derrob.blog.de/2012/08/03/diskussionen-50-shades-of-grey-14373909/)

Everybody talks about Shades of Grey - everybody reads it - and many BDSMers find it lacking - and counterproductive.

And everybody fears the rush of halfbreed, uninitiated wannabees, joining the BDSM community "cause FSoG was such a cool movie and it really looks kickin - like bitchn ey".

Many wrote critics about it - I personally find this "fear of the FSoG-newbies" overrated. A well known german BDSMer "Matthias Grimme", wrote about it :
"The classification of FSog as SM-literature is often beliddled in ~the scene~, but phantasies do not belong into boxes. The "this is no true SM" discussions show the german "allotment gardenplot" mentality. In many other international forums, the discussion does not happen like this. We germans want to do it better - saying ~I am the better - the true pervert - you just a FSoG-pervert".

I feel, we should remember our own words: For years, "we BDSMers" wanted to be accepted, allowed to "be" and stop hiding from public. Well - FSoG does the trick for us.

"(whispering on a party)O wow - you read it too, I always found that interesting(EndOfWhispering)" "Oh yeah, a nice read and very romantic, but its basically a massmarket novel with an SM-setting. SM-reality is a different lot, so take FSoG with a spoon of salt, please. I have been around SM for some years and found ......"

Its just not (or very hardly) possible to write a massmarket novel, that happens to depict BDSM relationshics scientifically or even just emotionally correctly with all the social, sociological, psychological and cultural implications. FSoG can not deliver that - neither could "9,5 weeks" or "Secretary" - and they dont have to.

What they can do, is inspire and make people realize, its not so much "we vs. them", but rather more than one way to live sexuality between heaven and earth - and invite to learn more.

There always have been and will be "I know it all I saw the movie" type of people. So lets go - let is prepare for the flood of the Uninitiated - and do what we always do:

Let them be - or Show them in.

Other Interesting links :
(de) http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/gesellschaft/sado-maso-verleger-matthias-t-j-grimme-ueber-shades-of-grey-a-845866.html
(en) http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/eva-illouz-explains-how-fifty-shades-of-grey-solves-problems-of-love-a-843644.html

Wie BDSM Beziehungen altern

(Work in Progress)
Der Erziehungsberechtigte schrieb :
Was würde denn passieren, wenn die Sklavin irgendwann perfekt abgerichtet ist (sofern es Perfektion gibt)? Nehmen wir an die Sklavin wäre irgendwann perfekt erzogen...was fange ich dann noch mit ihr an? Würde es nich auch irgendwo langweilig werden?
Eine gute Frage, und die Antwort ist oft, das die Beziehung dann "zu ende ist". Stillstand ist tot, sozusagen. Entweder, weil es für eine Seite langweilig wird, oder weil die Beziehung sich nicht mehr weiterentwickelt.
 
Und das ist der Kern für viele D/s Beziehungen, das DOM für die Entwicklung von sub zuständig ist und sie führt. Das Gefühl zu dienen sollte für eine sub, die gerne dient, nie schal und "0815" werden, genauso für DOM.
 
Genaugenommen ist es mit einer Liebe genauso - wird sie nicht mehr gepflegt und jung gehalten, geht sie ein.
 
Ich denke, in einer BDSM Beziehung ist das schwerer, weil beide Partner ihre eigene Agenda haben und die Wahrscheinlichkeit, das sie sich in unterschiedliche Richtungen weiterentwickeln, um ein Vielfaches größer ist. Oder die Beziehung gab es überhaupt nur, weil beide ein bestimmtes Bedürfnis hatten - oder zu haben glaubten - das miteinander erfüllen und vielleicht merken: "Hmm ... das ist ja nett, aber doch nicht (nur), was ich brauchte."
 
Und damit sind wir beim Kern des Zitats oben - der Erziehungsberechtigte stellt die Frage nach dem Ziel. In dem Moment, wo das Ziel irgend ein Zustand ist, den man erreichen kann, ist es das falsche Ziel für eine Beziehung.
 
Der Weg muss das Ziel sein. Viele verstehen das nicht und denken nur in "Welche Werkzeuge muss ich noch ausprobieren/kennenlernen/sub beibringe, damit ich fertig bin".
 
Wenn man irgendwann fertig ist - hört man auf und bleibt stehen. Wer still steht, setzt Moos an - altert.Beziehungen, die altern, werden schal und staubig. Egal ob in der Liebe oder im BDSM